Damn you, BSG.

[guanin]

That's the second time I forget about the latest episode of True Blood because I'm stuck watching BSG. Last week, I didn't see episode 10 until Thursday. And now, even though I've downloaded the latest episode of True Blood, I want to keep watching BSG. *headdesk*

Small Heroes question. How old is Nathan in 2006? I confess that I've never had any clue and I might or might not use it in a story.

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Peter just wants the people that he loves to love each other, is that so hard?

Mm, I can see it getting angsty. I mean, it's about so much more than just the age with the two of them; to Claude, Peter's not just younger in actuality, he's younger in the sense that he's innocent and naive and (if you're getting slashy) pure. Compared to Claude's long and storied history of really shitty things. But of course that's entirely Claude's perception because Peter's not really all that innocent and he's been through a hell of a lot lately. *cough* I think too much about these two.

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Well, maybe love each other might be too much for these two, at least being able to be in the same room together and have a civil conversation, you know?

Peter's "innocence" has certainly been altered lately. That might really alter the way Claude sees Peter, no longer the naive boy who though Nathan could do no wrong (or at least not that level of wrong).

But I was thinking more "in the future". It's not a problem now, but if Claude gets it in his head that if they manage to survive and not get killed by Sylar or some other thing, then when he's 50, Peter's still a young 34 and when he's 60, Peter's still only 44 and on and on we go. I don't know why my brain goes in these directions. My muse just looks for regions of maximum angst.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

I think Peter would settle for them not sniping at each other, it's true.

True, but I'd like to think that it would make Claude sad. Just a little. I mean, it makes me sad, for Peter to have lost a little bit of his optimism.

Yeah, and at least now Peter isn't going to be ageless. I don't think Claude would deal well with that at all. I can really see him pushing Peter away, especially as he got older and had to deal with all the older people stuff. I mean, given the life Peter leads it's not impossible that he would get killed before Claude died but that might be even worse for Claude, to lose someone like Peter after all he's been through. *laughs* Going to the dark place fast tonight, aren't we?

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It would. Even though he tried to teach Peter not to be so naive, it's that precious innocence thing. Seeing Peter without it might make him appreciate more that long haired kid with dreams of being a hero.

That would have been so much worse. My muse has tried to go in that direction, believe me, As well as the "Peter dying" one. I don't want to, so nothing has materialized yet, thankfully, but man. My muse is all death and tragedy. It's horrible. And that's why I don't want to write it. I couldn't stand Claude' heartbreak if Peter was killed. *sniff*

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It makes me wish so much that CE had stuck around at least through the 5YG episode, or showed up in it to interact with that Peter a little. I could even see the dynamic shifting a little to Claude being the more optimistic of the two. Or both of them being hard-assed and cynical at each other, although Claude would still be better at it.

I remember when we first out it was a possibility, with Adam, [Bad username or site: @ livejournal.com] and I had that discussion. It would really be awful, because while Adam learned to deal with it well, probably because he was already a kind of an outsider even before the "living forever and never aging thing", Peter would really not handle having the people he loved drop like flies around him, and after a while that's what it would feel like. Claude would really be broken by losing Peter. I mean, he wouldn't kill himself or anything super dramatic like that, but he'd completely shut down, I think.

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That would have been wonderful. I think if Claude had been around, maybe Peter wouldn't have turned out as bitter as he did. He'd have someone he loved to hold on to.

That scenario makes me kinda glad that his father took away his powers even if he doesn't have the invisibility anymore, because wow, that's way too harsh. Peter is so loving and attached to the people he knows. Future Peter is just a taster of what he might deteriorate into. I also think Claude would shut down. *sign* This is such a depressing conversation.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

I like to think that Claude would've been able to bully him out of being such a mopey teenager about it, at least. But then again I kind of just laugh at 5YG Peter because he is...such a teenager about it. A depressed, guilty, teenager, but...it's hard to respect someone who clearly spends that much time slicking back his hair.

*sigh* I do miss the invisibility. I bet Peter does too. But I do like the reboot of his character like that; it makes him a lot less powerful in a sense, but requires him to be awesome in a whole different range of ways, and I love seeing that. I think if it were just Peter and Claude, and Peter died, Claude would be pretty broken; but remembering Abby, I think it's also possible he could give up on relationships like he had with Peter and just devoting himself to being a fatherly influence. Or not. And hey, better we get this out here than write fic about it. [Bad username or site: @ livejournal.com] would kill me.

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*snort* He went from "hair in your eyes" to poster boy of emoness. Claude should definitely be able to right that ship.

It was a good thing for his character to start from scratch and at least now he can sample different powers, so he's not tied to one, either. But I miss invisible Peter. Claude needs to show up so they can be invisible together. Claude might survive if he formed other relationships like that, but it would still be incredibly sad. Yes, it is best if we don't depress everyone else with this kind of fic. We'd have crying all over the place.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

Hee. It's true; for all that they were called "the emo-bangs", Peter really wasn't all that emo when he had them. But future Peter was really just missing the dark eyeliner; he had the long dark coat and greasy hair and everything. Claude would mock him for it; when he went through his dark nights of the soul, he did it quietly and invisibly, and when he was going anti-authoritarian to save specials, he was also a hell of a lot more subtle and efficient at it. But then again, he is English.

Seriously, I miss that one little hint we get that Peter is thinking about Claude or at least still remembers him. I still cross my fingers for an on-air mention. Poor Claude doesn't deserve to lose anyone else; he's been through too much already and it's hard enough for him as it is to form attachments. There would be much tearing at hair and rending of garments were we to write this kind of thing out, though, as achingly romantic as it would be.

[guanin.livejournal.com]

dark nights of the soul

That phrase made me laugh. Now I have cracky thoughts of a future emo Peter scribbling his autobiography and using that as a title.

An on-air mention would be wonderful, some tangible proof that Claude is in Peter's thoughts. I'm imagining those professional mourners now with the wailing and tragic "nooo"s. Best not.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

*laughs* God, I don't even know where that turn of phrase came from, but it's just one of those things that I picked up somewhere and use a lot. And yes, that is totally the title of emo!Peter's memoir. Or he goes all Rorschach about it and just keeps a journal.

Is it really too much to ask? We got a GN mention of Peter from Claude, it wouldn't be stretch. Heee. People rubbing ashes into their hair and all that.

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Oh, no! Not the Rorschach route! That's all poor Peter needs.

It can't be that hard to work an "I miss Claude" or something like into a conversation. Or he could be reminiscing to himself. Which he probably does anyway.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

*snickers* I know Claude and Rorschach seem to have a couple of things in common, while Peter and Don certainly have their own similarities, but picture Peter moping around with a mask and an ascot and a gravely voice is just too damn funny not to dwell on. I'm feeling so silly right now.

Or baring that, because why would they give into the most delicious subtext of all, at least a reference to his being invisible, or his training, or his yummy accent...anything, really. But no, Peter has to keep those reminiscence to himself.

[guanin.livejournal.com]

That is absolutely hilarious. Oh, the crack.

Darn you, Peter. This is not the time to repress your feelings. Let them fly!

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

Hee. I remember thinking that it was possible Claude was a bit of a fan of Watchmen and might have even read it during its original run as actual comic book installments; he and Alan Moore have a few things in common, and not just the beards. But Peter probably wouldn't be.

*laughs* Were Peter to let his feelings fly at this point, he'd explode again; between Claude, Simone, Caitlin, and Adam, well...and that's ignoring the whole Nathan deal.

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He probably would be. Heroes betrayed by autocratic figures, the world shown as bleak and flawed. But Peter is optimistic for that. He wants everyone to be happy.

True, poor guy. Either that or break down into tears and never stop. *hugs him*

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He'd read the GN and watch the movie and appreciate that it was good, but be very discomfited by it without really knowing why. He wouldn't know what to make of the end, for one. Maybe he'd like the movie more; it ends on a bit of a better note.

*sigh* Poor baby is so screwed.